I wonder how it was going from having no kids to four kids.

“Well, I had one kid, then two kids, then three kids . . .”

But in a short period of time.

“Two and a half years or so.”

That’s a quick way to do it.

“Listen, I’ve always embraced extremes, so it doesn’t feel odd to me. There’s a couple weeks of finding your balance, and then it’s in stone.”

And there’s nothing you can do about it from that point on.

“Nothing I’d want to do about it, either. We’re not done.”

Really? More?

“You just look at them and go, my daughter’s from Ethiopia, two sons from Asia, a daughter who’s born in Namibia—and they are brother and sister. They have the same dynamics I had growing up, and I . . .” Pause. “It pleases me so much. I get so warm. I don’t even see in that, anymore, what their lives could have been. I have to intellectually think about that. They are a bond, they are a family. And I want to see those bonds and that family grow. And that right there, sitting in our kitchen, is how I want to see the world. It’s how I want the world to be.”